The technical journal, Teknisk ukeblad brings us this story on how Norway has rebuffed Israel over its request to send a delegation to Norway to learn more about the Norwegian oil development model
After the discovery of large quantities of gas in sea off Israel last year, the country has been eager to exploit its hydrocarbon industry.
Earlier this year, the Israeli embassy in Oslo requested permission from the Norwegian government to send a delegation to Norway to learn about the Norwegian administrative model.
The Foreign Ministry responded to the inquiry with reference to the Norwegian attitude in relation to marine areas with unresolved or contentious jurisdiction, a reply which was perceived as a cold shoulder from many actors.
Such actors include Norwegian opposition politicians; the spokesperson on energy, Siri Meling from the Conservative party says this:
- The Norwegian administrative model for the petroleum sector is in many ways a success story, and several countries have wanted to learn from Norway. I am puzzled by UD unfriendly reply to Israelis’ request to send a delegation to Norway to learn about the Norwegian administrative model, arguing that the waters off Israel are unresolved or subject contentious jurisdiction.
She would have accepted the Ministry’s reasoning if the request was for active participation in the establishment of the activity in these areas.
But all Israel asks for is help to build up a management regime. I agree with Jørund Rytman of the Progressive Party that Norway should also offer to use its experience with Russia over the long unresolved maritime border there to facilitate the resolution of international limits in these maritime [the contested maritime areas between Israel/Cyprus vs Lebanon], so that all States with a stake in the area, have the opportunity to exploit the resource potential there, says Meling.
Jørund Rytman, an MP for the Progressive Party and leader of the Friends of Israel in the Norwegian Parliament, had this to say about Norway’s attitude:
- It is sad that Norway is so reticent, and missing the opportunity to be proactive in this case, not least in view of the experience we have in gas and oil industry.
However, Rytman is is still an optimist, and hopes there will be a delegation from Israel to Norway.With regards to the government’s objection to the Israeli gas find in areas that are partially contested, Rytman offers the following comment:
- Our experience with the maritime border with Russia would suggest that we could help Israel, and perhaps contribute towards solutions. This is why should Norway have been more active in this matter, and offered our expertise.
The leader of the Norwegian-Israeli Chamber of Commerce Dag Abrahamsen, hopes that the Israeli authorities will send a delegation to Norway to look at our oil and gas industry.
In my view, the present government does not seem to have great cooperation with Israel, even though there is no official Norwegian policy toboycott the country. One may wonder if there is an underlying political agenda which stops the initiative, says Abrahamsen.
- The Norwegian authorities point out that the reason they are negative is because gas discoveries have been made in areas that are controversial and unresolved. What are your views on this?- This is the same as if other nations’ governments would not cooperate with Norway, because we have had unresolved maritime border issues with Russia.
Only a very small portion of the areas in the Mediterranean where Israel has made its gas discoveries, fall within disputed areas. Most of the discoveries are clearly within Israel’s international borders, Dag Abrahamsen says.
Well, what a surprise. Not.
I think Norway has gone completely into the dark side. It has seamlessly aligned its politics, culture, morality and historical narratives with the Arabs and against Israel. There is no plausible explanation that can account for this kind of wholesale rejection of Israel. There is a primitive feel to all this animosity which is a disgrace to such a country that pretends to be modern, free and decent.
Here’s a (not so) stupid question:
Why is Israel doing discussing ANYTHING with Norway, except to tell them to go pound sand?
since I am not a representative of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, I cannot give you an answer to that. But given that Israel is a serious country, that conducts its international business and obligations with great responsibility, maybe the reason for Israeli willingness to continue to have diplomatic relations with Norway is that the alternative would be very silly? International relations are managed differently from personal relations, where the institutions replace the individual. So right now, but not for a very long time more, Norway is not a very friendly country towards Israel, but the next government would likely be more inclined to view Israel more favorably, and take Norway’s obligations and international reputation as a neutral peace negotiator somewhat more seriously.
In a previous comment here, you said you hate Europe. Just how does that solve anything for you? Or for anybody else for that matter?
“In a previous comment here, you said you hate Europe. Just how does that solve anything for you? Or for anybody else for that matter?”
For me, it provides a certainly amount of emotional and moral satisfaction. Sometimes, somebody or something just does something so evil, or is evil for so long without being sorry for it, that they deserve to be hated. I want as little to do with Europe as I can – I will not visit it, I will not buy European products, and I admit to even feeling uncomfortable when I meet Europeans. Why? Because Europe has done enough evil things to Jews, and has done them long enough, to merit hate.
This may not be pretty, but there are times where hatred is justified. There is genuine evil in the world, and by hating that evil, people (hopefully) will stop tolerating it. It can actually be a motivator for good when directed against true evil.
Professor?
I e-mailed NIJ this link on Jagland, Norway and Eurabia
some time ago. Not recieved or not of interest?
http://www.nytid.no/perspektiver/artikler/20111028/det-nye-europa-kartet/
Which mail address did you send to? The NIJ address goes straight to Christian, I am not sure that what extent he checks this mail now that he is on sick leave.
Professor
I am not supposed to disclose the address here, am I?
If you did not get it, Christian likely did.
Please, send me an e-mail. It will make it easier to contribute.
ok, check your mail.
Israel should have cut off all relations with Norway, until such a time in the future when the latter learns not to hate the former. This will only occur with a change of government to a little extent. The elitists in the media, unions, academia, church etc will continue their hatred as before.
Oslo Norway as the center of the ultra left anti-Israel gangs has become the disgraceful European mediocrity.
Martin,
I also think that if Israel breaks relations, one of the conditions for re-establishing them should be the legalization of shechitah. Why have diplomatic relations with a country that will not allow Jews to practice their religion.
I also think that, for similar reasons, Israel should break or downgrade relations with Sweden – although that is a bit trickier, since it is bigger, a member of the EU, and has more Jews. (Israel would also need a country to step in to handle its affairs in its absence, something the USA does not do for others; Canada would seem like a logical choice).
Because of the shechitah ban, (and simmering Jew-hatred) Switzerland should also be on that list.
JamesPhiladelphia: I disagree, England is still at the Centre, but Oslo is trying hard, I’ll grant you that but It takes a lot to beat the BBC, the guardian and the rest of the British media riffraff. Probably paid by the Saudies. They bought Oxford St already. (Am I getting paranoid…?)
Excellent to see the above.
The more the outside world learns of Norwegian hatred, the better in the long term for Norway. sooner or later, Norway must change, as I believe that Norway has been operating outside of any normal decency, no matter how anti Israel/Jewish other countries might be. Norway is quite excessive with its perculiar hatred.
It can be rather dangerous to deny sales to Israel. They may invent something better and put it on the market.
Maarten , Being Jewish and paranoid about hatred is quite normal. And who is to say that you are wrong?
It is a known fact that the Saudis are at the top of the Jew hating gang and they pay an enormous amount of funding to delegitimise Israel and of course to convert the losers in life to militant Islam.
Tzvi, The Merkava tank, Saar missile boats, various IT communicationsitems, SLR’s, pilotless aircraft and the list goes on.
Tzvi
A classic.
Thank you.
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Martin
My poor English is at times downright embarrassing.
Thankfully, it did not prevent one of Norway’s leading
petroleum experts to pay me a visit today.
He is willing to establish a group of advisors,
if Israel want’s him to.
your english is very good thank you and good on you for great visit! (I am sure our native anglo speakers are very impressed with your English, which undoubtedly is much better than their Norwegian….. )