Yesterday I wrote about the thieving socialists and the scandal that has developed under the auspices of the Minister of Children, Equality and Social Inclusion, Audun Lysbakken. While skeletons keep falling out of the closet, threatening to derail Broiler Lysbakken’s gravy train to the throne of the failed Socialist Left party, someone helpfully dug out this racist rant by the state secretary behind this comedy of errors. Below you can get a glimpse of former Socialist Youth leader and current state secretary Kirsti Bergstø, here caught on camera while she displays all of her disgusting racist true self. The first 30 seconds or so documents her rant, while the rest of the video documents Israeli soldiers’ professionalism and discipline in the face of sustained terror threats
This is the political maturity of the Norwegian elite…
And you do have to keep in mind that it was the racists [Jew-haters] themselves from whose PoV this travesty was filmed, attempting to ridicule the Israeli soldiers. Btww, it’s not clear from the [blog] post what position she holds at this time exactly. Therefore: 1. What is this position? and 2. a.) Is there anything you in Norway can do about this, be that publicising (more widely) – OK, you tried to do that so far, but stull? and b.) bringing a kind of a suit against her, anything??
(I meant official government position of course, no need to post – fg)
Of course this woman is a despicable, lowlife worthless piece of s*it. As is her government and country generally and more deeply sociopsychologically – in my view. Probably the most despisable (despicable) morally wretched country in the Western sphere. Sweden is a neck and neck and/or a close second. Yes, I really really mean it.
She is state secretary for the troubled minister of Children, Equality and Social Inclusion, Audun Lysbakken. She is in fact the very person who set aside the recommendations of the civil servants and awarded the very youth party she was leader of money from the public purse for a self defense course. Before that she had made sure to set aside the provisions of public funding in Norway, that all interested parties who qualify, must be informed of the monies available so that they can enter a bid. She only informed two groups about the money, namely the ones affiliated with her own party! Other state secretaries or ministers who have committed lesser crimes have stepped down from their positions, but in this case, because of the delicate situation that the chief responsible – the minister – is set to be elected as leader of this itsy-bitsy racist party, and firing him would upset the coalition, making it fall apart. So this case is in reality about who gets to run Norway, shameless and corrupt thieves, or letting the opposition form a minority government.
This blog is very small, but that does not mean that it is not being read by very interesting people. People who now might think that common sense and good judgement is not the forte of this government..
To FG,
the only thing to do is to not get down at the same level. We just have to hope that the Norwegian people wake up. After looking at this video I just want to pack all my belongings and leave Norway. As a Norwegian I can not speak free about what I feel about the Jewish history. As a Norwegian I should not feel anything when I see photos of Jews from the 2 ww. How cool is it to have to watch people that looks like your family getting killed in history class at school? Well I trowed up and cried! That was unwanted feelings in the public of Norway. So I was reported in and given a speak to not repeat it!
Let Natalie say some words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtiYyGoNJ9o&feature=related
To Norwegian. I understand how difficult it is to leave behind memories both good (assuming you have) and bad. I just don’t understand why you still live there and remain unhappy. I do sympathise with you. I would absolutely give my right arm to be able to return to Israel and live there. Unfortunately, at my age, with insufficient funds, it is impossible. Of course if there are any Jew hating organisation that read this site would like to fund an exodus. May I be the first recipient ?:)-
One serious question Prof, if the money was to be used for self defence, who is the supposed attcker? Have quations been asked as to why the SV thought it necessary? I thought that other than the Jews who might face attacks, Norway has a silky innocent life style.
Norway is not the quiet paradise people think we are, rape and violent crime is a serious and growing problem. The idea for such a course is obviously very good, but it would have been more natural if a sport organization that routinely works with self defense would have been selected to organize courses, not a political organization who also would be able to recruit members on state support. Disgusting, that is what it is. And the leeches won’t let go, they have been found out, but think that since they have apologized, they should not have to face the consequences of breaking the Law. I want to try that if I ever get caught speeding or not returning my tax papers on time – just apologize and refer to current practice where you get let off the hook after an apology. I need a crocodile tear pump!
Martin,
the hardest in this situation is that my family has done so much to just be normal Norwegians, that I feel that they have given up their identity to be political correct. It has to become more political correct in Norway to be liberal about feelings and what is normal. I have seen my own grandparents in pain because they could not speak about the past. Norway is a democracy so people have the right to speak free! It is sad to leave the policy, but I have changed so I want more personal freedom than welfare for the public in general. Its not a crime to change its the best way to get back to one self : )
http://www.aschehoug.no/litteratur/romanernoveller/katalog?productId=54861684
Norwegian
Very interesting and thoughtful comment you made
I believe that it should be necessary to conform to everything that is asked for. Afterall, most muslims do not conform and many expect and pracise sharia law, with or withour government approval.
If the SV is to prepare self defence for their members, they surely are following the dictators role of eventually forcing out any opposition to their dogma. I really believe this to be even more dangerous than it has been exposed so far.
If the extreme right were to encourage self defence for their members, I am sure the like of all the elite would be screaming to the skies about the potential Nazi danger. So what is the difference here? The extreme left are no better than the extreme right. Both need to be exposed as fanatics, yes including those in the government!
At the end of the day, should we expect anything better than this sordid lot in the Storting?
Martin,
my grandfather started to warn me 20 years ago when I was just a child that it all would come back. I told him it would never would, “we the Norwegian people” would never aloud open hate. Something is wrong when people that are open Nazi calls me and I have no where to get help form because it they are just playing with me so I should not be so easy to shake. Martin sorry but I’m not the best, I get really scared when people calls me and say bad things can happen to me because I will not stop talking about Jews. I’m really scared of Herbert on this page that keeps on targeting me. Is my opinion, my feelings really needed to control 100%? What have I done wrong? Is it a crime to try to figure out why people like one? And chose what one like? I want to be free!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHpvlr_kG6U&ob=av2e
Norwegian (girl or female???),
I’m a bit incredulous why you would want to stay and live the rest of your adult life in a generally inhospitable, highly aggressive, but even more (generally) intolerant dark and cold place where you cannot even have a good plesant swim in the many lakes and abundant water even in much of the summer, except for a wekk or at all! Why? Of course I’m not stupid, all your life binds you there (just like me here in Hungary), but one must seriouly think about alternatives in life if you have bad feelings about your own country, people. In the end, why should you stay somewhere, where it’s that bad from your point of view? No fine food I assume in Norway, never good weather (or almost never) so think rational I would say even it it is hard. This of course totally applies to me ehre in Hungary, too. Most of all, why would one stay in a generally hostile and primitive country, be that Norway, Sweden, Hungary or any number of them.
“She is state secretary for the troubled minister of Children, Equality and Social Inclusion, Audun Lysbakken. She is in fact the very person who set aside the recommendations of the civil servants and awarded the very youth party she was leader of money from the public purse for a self defense course. Before that she had made sure to set aside the provisions of public funding in Norway, that all interested parties who qualify, must be informed of the monies available so that they can enter a bid. She only informed two groups about the money, namely the ones affiliated with her own party! Other state secretaries or ministers who have committed lesser crimes have stepped down from their positions, but in this case, because of the delicate situation that the chief responsible – the minister – is set to be elected as leader of this itsy-bitsy racist party, and firing him would upset the coalition, making it fall apart. So this case is in reality about who gets to run Norway, shameless and corrupt thieves, or letting the opposition form a minority government.
This blog is very small, but that does not mean that it is not being read by very interesting people. People who now might think that common sense and good judgement is not the forte of this government..”
That much is clear. But pardon me here ow. Isn’t there a colossal mega-scandal about ALL this in Norway?????! Here in hungary there was a hell of a ruckus raised just about similar cases in similar minstries and positions of political hacks and they are behind bars now? Seriously I’m not joking, is *THIS* the level of your glorious (acid sarcsam) country? Yeah, I rally mean this. Is this your country, pardon me? No retort, no punishment, anything? Then this country indeed a wretched pile of trash pardon my language, but if this is the evidence? what’s gonig on here? It’s jaw dropping and one isleft open-mouthed. This is not a civilized country, but something totally odious. When will they both (the Minister and the woman) HAULEED before a COURT and start a judicial process??????????
Norwegian: take it easy. Antisemitism in Europe is generally a thing of the past as far, as far as the “indigenous” European population is concrened, in terms of being a serious matter. What remained of it ranks much lower than most of our today`s problems, Moslem`s antisemitism for instance including in Europe by immigrants from Moslem countries) or the broader anti-Israelism (aka “new antisemitism). Instead of anguishing about the tragic Jewish past in Europe, in regard to which nothing can be done – the dead can`t be brought back to life – instaed support Israel, which is what matters at the present. Good luck to you.
Norwegian, you are scared of me because I dispute your analysis? I guess you are also scared of me when I wrote above “Very interesting and thoughtful comment you made.” So here is the deal: write whatever you wish. I will not read anything with your named attached and you should not respond to anything I write. That way you can live in your own little emoting world undisturbed by me. At bottom, as Walter Benjamin said before he was sent to the concentration camp “everything you say and do is too important” and even better: as my wife once told someone very wrapped up in themselves “your life is not exciting enough to share.”
Only today did a politician report this matter to the police… the coalition friends look out for each other and would not risk their political life over safeguarding our Laws. Pretty awful if you ask me… now it will be interesting to see whether the police will actually investigate this matter, several Laws have been broken, but maybe they will just return with a verdict of insufficient evidence. I am currently in the UK, where the press, the opposition, the public would not have gone home until the offending minister or secretary or both, or all, had been send packing, without a generous redundancy pay package! it is intolerable, not only is this coalition not representative of anything, but they are scheming criminals who gladly sacrifice the good name of other hard working politicians just so that they can have one more day in the sun!
To FG,
I have been into the Norwegian system so long that I gave up to stand up for my own identity just to be accepted. I was told by my family and friends that this was the modern way to live every time I doubt. And I did well because I wanted to see them happy, but sorry I love to enjoy sun, temperature 30-40 and music. So my weakness was this. I talked about going to a warm place to enjoy life and have fun, and others regarded it as I became religious. I have had so many fights just because I want to leave Norway to get sun with people I love and people inside this system. In the end I was told that I’m regarded as Jew by the system, then my world changed 100%. I have never wanted to fight Norway or the system, but no human should be analysed like I have by a system without any support form other systems! I have no military training, I just try to use art to show what I feel, and hope that there are some humans that can hear my voice. I know very well that I’m a pain in the ass to anyone that want to create order. Sorry but I just can’t understand that living humans can be ordered, and I did not see the system at all. I’m a lose cannon and I’m not willing to change behave well just because it would be more peaceful for power people.
Why stay? Because there are humans here that are free and that make me happy. After I started to speak with other Jews around the world I can see that there is more joy in life than bad : ) That is a new thing in my life that I will not give up : ) I can see the culture and I enjoy so much to look for this culture in art, music and movie. The religious is to strong and I’m not sure if I can be a part of that, sorry : ) I think Norway needs the Jewish culture more than the Jews needs Norway : ) I can pack my belongings and never look back if that is what the system want ore they can start to calm down and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP5EfwBWgg0
But any way I still enjoy Madonna, but I liked her better when she was not so direct as this : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_pCcBm400Y
Herbert, you have not been kind, and only SDA does the things you do. Why do you want to do so, I’m fine as I’m. So are you. Take care!
Norwegian, why are you scared of Herbert? He will not hurt you. He may disagree with you, or unable to understand your situation. but, that surely goes for me too.
If the situation in Norway for you is so untenable (impossible) to make a decent life for your and your family, surely you need to consider a new life elsewhere. I know this is not easy. But to stay where you are is far more difficult. The most disgraceful aspect of all this, is the fact that a country such as Norway (and others) have lost their decency in allowing and even supporting the murder of Jews.
The apologies by Stoere ring false. For whose sake were the apologies? Certainly not the victims of the Holocaust, they’re not here to acknowledge the “humble” speech. It is only an extremely thin veneer to coverup all the past discrepencies. There is no substance to his “apology.” I’ve mentioned before so many times; actions speak louder words. At present in Norway and for the foreseeable future, that is all you will see.
The hatred towards Israel (read the Jews) so soon after the Holocaust and the incitement against Jews, shows that Norway has become offensive and self degrading in it’s plans to obliterate any form of Judaism. Keep the trolls in and the Jews out. Norwegian, for your own peace of mind, either you and your family come to the UK, or apply to the USA, Canada, Australia for immigration as asylum seekers. Which you are, in facing such barbarity from your “Fellow” Vikings.
Cosmop, I agree with you regarding the support of Israel 100%. However, to cast the blame on Muslims and not indigenous europeans is quite incorrect. Are the leading elite in Europe Muslims? Surely not. Old customs die hard. If you are brought up by the church to hate Jews, as is often the case. To learn such bile from the leading “authorities” on humanities affairs that have infected the minds of the academia, news media, unions, politicians, arts etc, it works. Afterall, these people, like their Muslim friends, carry on the old Nazi and soviet dogma; Tell the lies often enough and the brainwashed simpletons will believe it. Apart from which, with such obscene profits from black gold, the Muslims can afford to but out most people in the public eye. We know it happens, as has been proven here in the UK, so why not elsewhere?
I feel that you are being ungenerous towards Norwegian, advising her to take it easy. No doubt, the Norwegian police told the Jewish population that as they were being herded towards the Donau that was waiting to take them to their “final destination. Because you may not hate theJews doesn’t mean to say that it is non existant in Europe generally or Scandinavia in particular.
Norwegian for yor own peace of mind, leave while you can. You are still young enough to start all over again. Atzlakha
Norwegian, enjoy life then and please never forget to support our only, I emphasize to you and all, ¿only¿ real lifeline ever, our dear, precious unique Israel, totallz irrespective what the haters saz, think or do. Stand up both for ourself the Jews and Israel if possible, although Im totally sure its easier said than done…
Martin,
it takes time to understand that 70 years ago normal people where taken with a boat from Norway and killed. I spoke with a man that had meet some of the Jews here in Bergen. A mother and her baby. I asked him: what do you feel about their dead, could you have saved them? He could not reply, he just sad I don’t want to talk about them. I know I’m a ghost for many people. But its not my fault that they feel like that. I can find my name, face and identity in the Jewish history, but I do understand that I’m a type, just a human like the one that once gave me life where, and I love them for giving me life. I can stand in the shower for hours but I can never become a new person. Why do I have to like Herbert? I just have to live and its easy. But I want to speak my mind and if he dislike it then he should be a man and just ignore me : ) I don’t need a man!
Love FG : ) Take care : )
This particular thread seems to have turned into a therapy session
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It is a bit tedious to have to follow it all here…
Good point McG : )
Sorry I have just lost completely interest in Norwegian policy. Tanks for showing how people that looks normal in Norway shouts at military around the world. If I vote, I will give it to someone that works for the best for the one that pay tax and don’t try to save the world : )
Good luck with your political analysis : ) Take care : )
To FG and Martin take care and have fun here : )
It is a pity that Norwegian has taken such a defeatist attitude. I doubt that Norway will do as she wants. Without being involved in supposed “humanitarian” posts, what else will, or can Norway offer the world?
I dob’t believe thast it will be possible for Norwegians to lose interest in Norwsegian policies, especially so whentheose policies afffect her daytoday life.
Norwegian, the Israeli expression in English is to have strength and the purpose. Be strong about yourself and do not allow others to walk over you. You have “threatened a number of times to finish with this site, will it be different now?
: ) Sorry Martin : )
I’m not all bad, but I do see what you all say, and it makes me understand that I’m easy to push around. I have no clue about Norwegian politic at the level McG is now taking it up to. And I do not want to write what I think anymore. I know how the media works and McG knows it two. when I don’t know what to say, then I’m a person that just talk anyway about something and try to turn the conversation into something that I know. I know it drives people that want to be serious crazy, and I’m used to be told to get away and read a book. I can be completely stupid and brainless.
To McG is this page very important and she lay down a lot of effort to keep people informed about the situation she knows. I just try to calm things down. The last video showed me that I don’t have a clue about Norwegian politics beside from what the normal media writes.
I don’t want to be the Norwegian anymore, I might leave Norway in the future because I want to. Its a fact that I have low motivation to stay here. But I will not escape I will find a way to leave in a controlled way, so that I can come on holiday if I want to. I dislike in fact in real life to close doors.
Pleas don’t miss me on this page Martin. If you want to e-mail me just feel free any time. I can come to UK and meet you and yours if it makes you happy : ) By the way the company I work with cooperates with a Israeli firm, we have a meeting soon so I will need to learn some Hebrew : )
Aah Norwegian, for all of us here, and I am sure that other will agree with me. You don’t seem very happy at all with the situation in Norway and unlike the prof, I do not believe that in the short to medium term it will improve whatsoever.
It is not a case of running away, and nor do I suspect that there wil be a Norwegian holocaust. My whole point is this; how can anyone live in a country when you are considered unwelcome, an outcast and open to all forms of abuse, physical and mental? When the leaders of the country knowingly aid and abett this discrimination.
Of course Norway needs Israel, in order to retain her “peaceful” mission meddling in the mid east. Without Israel, Norway is thought of only having North Sea oil and gas, timber, and hrowing money left right and centre to those opposied to Israel. All joking aside, is Norwgian food or drink so remarkable, or can we do withoiut it? Personally,, I do without.
You can at least watch what goes on by keeping this site open. how else will you really know what’s going on? NRK, or Aftenposten etc?
It is nice that you want to visit the UK for a holiday. I know that you have a child (age unknown) and that you have a husband or partner to consider. Why don’t you approach the synagogue or at least the Rabbi in Oslo? Explain your situation, that you want to make a full return to be part of the jewish nation. you are still young to make a life for yourselves and be happy.
Personally, if I had the money, I would leave the UK without any problem and return to Israel . Unfortunately, I am not in that situation. not that I am under any form of attack here for being Jewish. At the college where I work part time, I am asked by the tutor to give a Jewish perspective. I doubt that whis would be welcome in Norway whatsoever. I even gave a a very short synopsis on British colonial rule in the history class offering facts, sypathetic to the Jews in the Palestinian mandate. This would never happen in Norway. Norway offers freedom of speech to those whose views match the elite, without any form form of reply. that is hardly a democracy in any true meaning of the word. That is why I would never consider Norway as a country to live in.
Be happy in yourself, refuse to be bullied, and show courage. Here you are not alone.
Ha de bra og god helse
Oh Martin, you are so sweet : )
It sounds odd, but I love to play brain games back with people that I don’t understand. When I meet a new person I try to figure out if I can get on the same level as that person. Its not my problem that some people hate me for it and freaks out, but if the hate is because of my DNA then its something to figure out. That is what I’m doing now, trying to understand what Jewhate is. I feel that the problem is that for 2000 years ago someone stole a religion, and if one speak loud about that one are antichrist and the devil, so its impossible to do it. When I speak to christians I ask them what they would have felt if their brother invited guest into their parents home and the guest told them to leave and never return. If someone says that Israel was made because Jews just wanted to, then I give them a bad look and ask if the Jews should have just stayed in Germany. What I really love about you Martin is that you defended me when I went after Herbert in a bad way : ) That was so kind and brave of you : )
Please take care and if you want to go to Israel it should not be a money case, can someone in Israel give Martin a place to stay? I can give some money for your thicket : ) I’m not rich but economic.
Love : )
Norwegian, you are too good. I managed toi holiday in Israel, the price of ticket/hotel etc is difficult but not impossible. We have a property in France, which we plan on selling. The property market there is very slow. Even after selling, it still would not suffice to live in Israel. My wife would not want to leave the UK. children etc. We may face discrimination at times, but there again, as an Anglo in Israel, I faced discriminitation there as a non eastyern European. Can’t bloody win. So I must therefore, wait for a winning lottery ticket. That plus my pernsion would then hopefully suffice.
Funnily enough, the Nazis here in the UK, many years ago offered to pay for the tickets of non Aryans to leave the country with about £50k. There were so many applications, the Nazis had to rescind their offer. Shame.