Eide comments in Aftenposten

The Norwegian foreign minister Espen Barth Eide expresses frustration over the lack of benefit of the Norwegian funding and investments to the PA. “What’s the use”?  Smells a bit of a warning to the PA too. Could this be a consequence of the recent disclosures of the abuse of funding to reward families of terrorists in Israel prisons as disclosed by the TV program Dagsrevyn recently ? Is the government feeling the heat ?
It is, however, also interesting to read the more careful diplomatic tone of Eide in the citations, not what one has been used to from the MFA in past 8 years, clearly pointing out requirememts, not requests, of both parties to mke possible progress in negotiations for peace. The FM is carefulnot not to throw mud in anybodys face. Will he succeed to bring Norway in from the sidelines after all the  years of Støre’s demolition of Norwegian diplomacy ?
Well, very altruistic of him if he does since it will benefit Norway but not his own career; a good start to his successor from the right wing coalition to whom he hands over the stick in the autumn….
 
 

Ingeborg Eliassen

Published: 19.mar. 2013 16:33 Updated: 19.mar. 2013 16:33
Google translate:
BRUSSELS (CBC): Norway and other donors are tired of pumping money into the operation of a state structure that has the prospect of becoming the skeleton of a real Palestinian state. – There is a limit. Time is running out, says Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide with special address to Israel and the United States.
 
USA has toned down expectations when President Barack Obama on Wednesday begins his four-day visit to the Middle East.
But in Brussels on Tuesday the Norwegian foreign minister’s aired frustration over the lack of a real peace process between Palestinians and Israelis.
– There is a time for everything. International donors have been working since the Oslo Accords, in two decades where a lot has happened in the world. There is a limit, time runs out. The parties must understand, especially Israel and the United States who believe that this can only be postponed, said Eide on the way to meet the AHLC, the donor group for the Palestinians, which Norway manages.
– We are able to keep this going. AHLC makes sense as an infrastructure to a political process – but there’s almost no meaning to it if there is no political process, said Eide.
Alternative: More radical
The Palestinians were not a big issue in the Israeli elections recently. Eide warns Israelis who believe that the relatively peaceful situation in the West Bank, automatically will last.
– If the Palestinian Authority collapses, it will in all likelihood lead to a radicalization of the West Bank as well. You can get something similar of  Hamas to take over. Then you have not the cooperative, moderate party you now have. It’s very bad for the Palestinians, but also very stupid for Israel.
[text omitted]
– Most specific requirements are directed to Israel. But from the Palestinians we require hiring freeze, more openness and structural reforms, says Espen Barth Eide.
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14 comments for “Eide comments in Aftenposten

  1. : )
    March 21, 2013 at 3:10 am

    McG,

    AP are so tierd of all the lies to PA and their terror! The fact that PA are mixing with all on the left and just go on about hate and hate. AP understand that if one mix with mad people one in the end will end up as them! The public her in Norway has no interest in PA it just cost money!

  2. solinski
    March 21, 2013 at 4:03 am

    Money paid by Norway, US and EU to the Palestinians is in reality a jazya, or in other words a prize for avoiding mayor terror attacks. As to Norwegians, Obama, EU and others, who know what’s better, what Israel’s interests are, then Israelis, it remains me a little of the preconclave discussions what and who the next Pope should be. The one thing all the opinion makers had in common was that none of them was a catolic.

  3. Martin
    March 21, 2013 at 6:30 am

    Well Herr Eide, The last time Israel succumbed to pressure in halting habitation for Jewish people in Judea and Shomron, what was the local Arab response? Only more increased hate towards Israel, with your blessings, refusal to discuss peace until just around the time Israel had had enough and restarted the building programme. And still you blamed Israel. You and your ilk do not subscribe to double standards. you display a one sided view only which is all too apparent.

    You sir, like your ilk are a rabid Jew hating racist who demands the right to tell Jews where they are unable to live their lives. Who the hell do you think you are? Who the hell do you believe you can scare and threaten? What methods do you wish to use in combatting your own country’s appalling treatment of Israel during and since the disastrous Oslo Accords. Please keep wasting your tax payers money on murderous prisoners. It will remind the soft left in Israel just how badly they believed in you.

    You need to explain in your own words (if that is possible)which Socialism you believe in. Is it the National or International versionand please explain the difference. From where I am, there ain’t any at all

  4. : )
    March 21, 2013 at 8:08 am

    Solinski what ever, the rest of us understand that is has to do with oil prices!

  5. de Bacle
    March 21, 2013 at 9:34 am

    well MArtin, “I for one” overheard both the previous Ambassador and Charge d’affairs at the Israel Embassy in Oslo express regard and respect for Eide at the time he was state secretary under the bothersome previous MFA, Støre. Eide is 100% academic (and seems to take pleasure in cutlivating the Dork Geek image) and probably gains respect also with the present academic Charge D’affairs,
    George Deek (not….Dork Geek).

    Eide has to respect earlier agreements and obligations by his own Government, but “I for one” detect a clear change. Let’s not knock a change for the better.

  6. : )
    March 21, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    de Bacle,

    hope you understand that Eide will never defend your religious rights to be a Jew her in Norway. He stands for assimilation that started after the war, it ok if one are a cold fish. Most of the Norwegian Jews are not, they really need religious freedom and suffer under the fact that they don’t have it.

    Spear me for your crocodill tears you don’t have to make propaganda to live in a democracy like Norway!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on9TXY8kYyk

  7. M S
    March 22, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Aftenposten already today started their own “scary ghost” propaganda autumn elections campaing.

    Headlines:
    “With the consrvative party (H) in the government it will be a “free for all” to divide pupils according to level”

  8. : )
    March 22, 2013 at 4:43 am

    Can’t they just write:
    I’m big your small, I’m right you wrong and there is nothing you can do about it. If they need it to look new and creative I can add some spelling mistakes in it.

    Way to go MS!

  9. Martin
    March 22, 2013 at 4:53 am

    de Bacle, I am very pleased that you were in aposition to overhear officials at the Israeli Embassy. That they felt the way they do, is welcome. I am still sceptical, and do not believe official Norwegian policy will change towards Israel.

    After what happened at the Oslo Embassy during the fateful Accords, leads to even further scepticism.
    Have to rush off,……

  10. Martin
    March 23, 2013 at 5:36 am

    de Bacle, I’m back. After the fiasco in Oslo with the disastrous aCcords for Israel, I have many questions regarding Israeli officials in Oslo.

    Did they try to make amends for the killing of a Moroccan waiter, believing him to be one of those responsible for the Munich Games massacre?

    Were the Israeli diplomats, and security staff aware of the secret and illegal talks between Israelis and “Fakstinians?”

    Did they know who the Norwegian counterparts were in the so called peace talks?

    If not, why not? Who witheld the information?

    If they did, what did they do? Did they ignore the whole scene?
    Or did they contact their superiors in Jerusalem? and of course that then brings the whole question of a sinister conspiracy. what did their superiors do and to whom did they report?

    Something is seriously wrong in Israel, when actions of this magnitude are witheld and information is not even discussed. Many people in Israel, myself included, believe that Beilin and Peres and the rest of their traitors should have been placed on trial for treason. Remember, it was officially illegal for any Israelis to discuss matters with the Fakestinians at the time. For excellent reasons, especially when, as mentioned before, the terrible toll of Israeli civilian deaths were casually titled the victims of peace, or similar by Peres. Perhaps the Prof has more information or bertter recollection than I.

    I feel like vomiting every time I see Asswhole Peres smiling in his present capacity. I have no idea, if he has more control or data over many politicians than has been recognised hitherto.

  11. solinski
    March 24, 2013 at 3:26 am

    The Israels Supreme Court has more pressing items on its agenda, like sending the former Israe’s president to jail for an allegded rape case ten years old, on the basis of evidence she said, he said.

  12. March 24, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    But Israel, unlike Norway, takes sexual harassment very seriously. I have not read the entire documentation for the case, but I do believe the evidence is a bit more solid than he said, she said. Compared to the sordid sex life of Norwegian politicians, left, right and center, I think Israeli politicians compare relatively favorably. At least they have learned to fear the Supreme Court who will chase any wrong doers down dirty rabbit holes and haul them in front of court and judge. Very unceremoniously I should haste to add. I tend to think it is a very healthy sign when people in power and positions of trust are judged harsher than people on the lower rungs of power and position.

  13. Martin
    March 25, 2013 at 3:56 am

    Prof… hear hear!

  14. : )
    March 26, 2013 at 9:24 am

    McG,

    for some we women should be glad we get food as we missbehave
    all the time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_01Te3VOlRk

    Why say what one believe insted of what one should!

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