Camouflaged anti-Semitism

lifted from dagen.no (google translate)

Camouflaged hatred

When Norwegian Jews are encouraged to leave the country , a limit has been crossed.
Editorial in Day 8 October 2013
redaksjonen@dagen.no
Tuesday 8 October 2013 , at. 9:21 (Updated : Tuesday, 8 October 2013 , at. 9:21 )

In today Norway is difficult to argue publicly a dislike or hatred of Jews and that the best thing would be if all the Jews left the country. Unless you say so in an ambiguous, indirect  way, of course

Even from the previously active neo-Nazis, the Vigrid and Boot Boys on rarely hears anything these days. It is only extreme Islamist groups such as the Prophet’s Ummah who nowadays present open, anti-Semitic statements.

But this silence must not mislead us into thinking that the primitive anti-Semitism has been eviscerated from society. Polls in recent years have documented it in a worrying way .

The Holocaust Center’s survey last June showed that more than one in four Norwegians (26 percent ) believed it is true that ” Jews see themselves as better than others.” The same proportion believed that ” Jews today use the memory of the Holocaust for their own benefit .” Twelve percent believed that Jews themselves are to blame for having been persecuted. Around ten percent stated that would have reacted negatively to Jews as neighbors or in your circle of friends .

Prejudice against Jews is therefore still bubbling under the surface . But it is relatively rare that they will come up to the surface. And when they do , they are often camouflaged in a way that makes them more respectable .

In recent Norwegian history is particularly criticism of Jewish religious practices that has been used to provide hateful, public attacks against Jews under a thin veneer of respectability .

In the interwar period there was heated debate about the Jewish ritual slaughter, kosher slaughter. It wasn’t only animal welfare concerns that prompted the debate. The Farmer’s Party  representative , Jens Hundseid, who later became prime minister of Norway delivered among other things the following powerful volley from the Parliament’s rostrum :

“We have no obligation to submit our livestock to the Jewish atrocities , we have invited the Jews to this land , and we have no obligation to provide Jews animals for their religious orgies . ”

The Farmer Association’s newspaper, the Nation, published, on the same topic letters of this caliber:

” If they cannot be asked to eat  Norwegian livestock, which is slaughtered in accordance with the Norwegian tradition, then they rather should leave Norway . ”

We were reminded of these statements when we read letters to the editor page of the Sunday newspaper VG. In a post where the topic was circumcision of boys was debated under the title ” grotesque practice .” The writer demanded an end to “this grotesque abuse of innocent children ” before he concluded with the following strongly worded :

I have heard that Jews consider to vacate the land if the ban is introduced . If they feel they have to leave Norway in order to continue with this abuse, then we should help them pack up.

We are actually referring to a published letter in the print edition of a news paper, not the open sewer which  occasionally characterizes the un-moderated anonymous talk-backs online. To the contrary, this article has been vetted and approved by the VG editors, hand picked from the vast amount of letters received daily.

One can most certainly be a principled opponent of both ritual slaughter and circumcision of boys. But when such criticism of religion is transformed into open encouragement for Norwegian Jews to leave the country , a limit has been crossed.

That of Jew hatred.

15 comments for “Camouflaged anti-Semitism

  1. martin
    October 9, 2013 at 9:14 am

    But of course, these people are not Nazis are they?

  2. October 9, 2013 at 9:37 am

    No, they are plainly not. Nazism, or neo-nazism has a ridiculously small following, and one tends to pity the fools, they are hard pressed to be able to walk and talk simultaneously. No, this person is representative of a much more dangerous undercurrent in Norway, that feeling of being so infallible, so superior, so above other people, that they cannot see the plain anti-semitism which suffuses Norwegian culture.

  3. : )
    October 9, 2013 at 10:24 am

    McG,

    I agree with you, its strong emotions that drives this people into actions, and they don’t mind to much about the result as long as it felt right, it was right. The shame is that internett has made it possible for these people to organise and find others that feels like them. Most common people feel fear when they feel that a group of unknown people use their feelings to just creat chaos, its madness! Media has to keep a open eye for these people and meet them with logical arguments.

  4. October 9, 2013 at 10:50 am

    Amazing to see the blind bigotry toward 2,000 people among 5 million, who have never threatened the society in any form.

    If Israel and Norway could change places, imagine how one would flourish, while the other would fall into ineptitude.

    Israel, and the dreaded Jews, have done more for humanity in 65 than Norway has done since its start, when it banned Jews from Norwegian society.

  5. October 9, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Yeah, and for that Israel and Jews continue to win Nobel prices as if there was no tomorrow! How many did Norway get this time around?

  6. martin
    October 10, 2013 at 3:26 am

    Prof, I admire and respect you very highly, as you know. I appreciate that you are Norwegian with a love and appreciation for the land you were born in. However, let us look at your words; People who area “much more dangerous undercurrent, the feeling of being so infallible, so superior, so above other people…”

    The only difference then is that the open Nazis knew and confirmed their vile hate, while the Norwegians practise it but call themselves democrats and royalists. Week in and week out, we read of these people, usually those in the headlines, who practise and preach Jew hate. They do not necessarily have to murder Jews, while many of them are openly active in encouraging and assisting in the murder of Jews in Israel and assaulting and insulting Jews in the country of their birth or immigration, Norway.

    As they might hate me as a Jew, I still detest them as being the lowest form of humanity who glorify in the slaughter of other people

  7. Daniel Birnbaum
    October 21, 2013 at 7:54 am

    A recent, comprehensive poll has shown that only 12% of Norwegians are anti-Semitic. According to the Pew Research Institute of Washington’s survey of 2006, the figure for France is 14%, and for the U.S., 23%. (The figure for France has been corroborated many times since 1998 by other research).

    Norway — and especially France — have been smeared anti-Semitic chiefly by American-Jewish activists and reporters who imagine anti-Semitism far away from themselves.

    Daniel Birnbaum (an American member of the French-Jewish community)

  8. October 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    In fact the study shows that 12% of Norwegians harbor the classic and most virulent forms of anti-Semitism. However, when you take into account the EU working definition of anti-Semitism and the include the ones who use anti-Israeli language or sentiments to express classic anti-semitic attitudes, the number is in the hight 30 percentile. The same is true for France.
    In France in recent years there have been several incidents of severe anti-Semitism, and where Jews have been murdered simply because they are Jews. Aliyah numbers from France remain high, where the majority of immigrants cite difficulties with being a Jew, aka anti-semitism for leaving France.

    Though I would agree with you that the average French, or Norwegian, is not a knife wielding maniac. Classic anti-Semitism has morphed into “criticism” of Israel, with the wildest exaggerations and direct lies are served up unchallenged. And woe and betide the one who raises his head above the parapet, he or she will soon find that not singing from the official hymn sheet has a very high price.
    It is important to continue to shine a very strong light at attitudes which are modern versions of the old beast, and press for more and better education on anti-Semitism, racism and discrimination. For Europeans this exercise includes an uncomfortable analysis of cultural and folkloric anti-semitic attitudes which are quietly passed on from generation to generation.

  9. October 24, 2013 at 8:03 am

    Contrary to McGonagall, Aliyah numbers are not high. The report to which McGonagall sends us dates to 2006. More recently, two French-Jewish journalists
    have written a book (“OPA sur les Juifs de France”) which shows that Israeli
    efforts to recruit French Jews have not worked. The authors say: “French
    Jews feel absolutely French and will not make Aliyah”. A survey by the French CRIF (the equivalent of Britain’s Board of Deputies and America’s Conference of Presidents) shows that French Jews who make Aliyah are chiefly motivated by religion: “They are fleeing neither Muslims nor anti-Semites”, testifies Pierre Besnainou, former president of the European Jewish Congress. Thirty to forty per cent of the French Jews who make Aliyah return to France for good after five years. “They were never forced to leave”, adds Besnainou.

    It is important to distinguish between countries (France is not Britain). It is equally important to trust social research by academics, and not the surveys of amateurs with an ax to grind, like America’s Anti-Defamation League, which bloats anti-Semitism in France through its ambiguous questions (sample: “Jews talk too much about the Holocaust”).

    The thing to keep your eye on is this: All — absolutely ALL — of the research on France — by French-Jewish sociologists (MIchel Wieviorka, Nonna Mayer, etc), by French-Jewish media experts (Guillaume Weill-Raynal, Sylvain Attal), by Sofres-Taylor polls and those of the Pew Institute of Washington — shows conclusively that France is NOT an anti-Semitic country. The past three presidents of the CRIF agree: “France is NOT anti-Semitic”. In their books, Eli Barnavi, Israel’s former ambassador to France, and Shlomo Ben-Ami, Israel’s former Minister of Foreign Affairs, also concur.

    This ends my participation in the debate. For further information, I direct readers to my article of 14 pages titled “How American Reporters Smear France Anti-Semitic”. It can be found at the site listed above. Thank you.

  10. October 24, 2013 at 8:12 am

    My website was inadvertently cut off for lack of space. It is:

    http://sites.google.com/a/pardonmydissent.com/test

  11. October 24, 2013 at 8:25 am

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  12. : )
    October 25, 2013 at 12:26 am

    Daniel Birnbaum,

    seriously I have no clue if anything is really happening in Europa with religion and people claiming that huge amount of young people are suffering from identity crisis.
    I read the news and I find lot of the topic written with emotions. I was working on a project and had to use the news to get information, when I did not understand the article I phoned to the persons in it and found out very often that their message had been missunderstood and that it had caused problems after the articel first lack of trust and the loss of contacts.

    When you say that people that experience diffrent things than you are what make you more diffrent from people that prejudge others in other situations?

    My advice is to investigate all the claims about Jew hate and find out how big the problem is. It just make people that are not inside of the Jewish world very sceptic when they read article like yours that someone is lying everything is fine. If Jews lies about Jew hate one has to figure out what more they also lie about. Your desperate writing to make things calm just make it more of a topic. My advice to you is to let accept that it will be non Jews that figure out if Jew hate exist, Jews provide information about the problem. Your voice make me really worried that a lot of people are indeed keept down and has no freedom to speak about their leif. I see you as more dangerous that ultra orthodox when it comes to individuals!

  13. Laura
    November 4, 2013 at 9:32 am

    Would they dare say to muslims that if they want to continue practicing barbaric halal slaughter and female genital mutilation, then they should leave the country? If the Norwegians wish to rid themselves of their productive, peaceful Jewish citizens and replace them with violent muslims on welfare, then let them get everything they deserve.

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