Peres asks Jagland to tell Council of Europe to annul circumcision resolution

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Peres asks Jagland to stop resolution on circumcision

Israeli President Shimon Peres asks that the resolution will be overturned.

Wednesday 9 October 2013 , 10 AM : 20

Shimon Peres asks in a letter to the Council of Europe Secretary General Thorbjørn Jagland said that the resolution prohibiting circumcision of boys transformed.

The resolution proposes that member states in Europewill ban the circumcision of eight days old Jewish boy . The letter from the Israeli President Peres addressed to Jagland ,uses Jagland’s first name . It shows the close friendship between the two, writes the newspaper  Dagen .

In the letter, Peres emphasizes the importance of circumcision in Jewish and Muslim religious tradition.

He points out that circumcision of boys has been practiced by the Jewish community for thousands of years as a basic rule and commitment within Judaism.

The President reminds the former Norwegian politicians and Labor Prime Minister that he has devoted much of his career to defend civil rights .

Cultural and religious rights

– Jewish communities throughout Europe will be severely affected if they were to see their cultural and religious rights being trampled on by the European Council , an institution that is committed to protecting these rights , writes Peres .

According to Dagen, the resolution was referred to as everything from imprudent to anti-Semitic .

The Council of Europe has 47 member states and is not part of the EU.

NTB

17 comments for “Peres asks Jagland to tell Council of Europe to annul circumcision resolution

  1. martin
    October 9, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Peres is asking his old friend from the days of the Oslo Accord to work on his behalf? Let us remember that Jagland was the current prime minister during the Oslo Accords.

    He recalls fondly meeting with Arafat in Beirut in 1978. This was at the time the Arafat’s PLO was murdering Jews in Israel and his fellow Arabs in war torn Lebanon. Arafat was a murderer, and was the darling of Norwegian society, which included Mona Jutl, Knut Frydenland. Thorvald Stoltenberg (Jens Stoltenberg’s father), JohannJoergen Holst, Bjorn Tore Godal, Jan Egeland, Gro Harlem Brundtland, Tom Berntzen, Marianne Heiberg and Terje Roed Larsen..

    If you really want to know what a thoroughly rotten to the core this lot was/is, I suggest you look them up and wee what their backgrounds are. Then, Norwegian, Harry, Elle etc, you will understand how the vile and corrupt Elitist establishment ensured that Israel would enter a disastrous agreement with the Arab world. Because these Jew haters, thousands of Israeli Jews, have been slaughtered and injured. When you look at these people, then you may ask, why your young people are being so brainwashed, as they were at Utoye. Then you will understand why the elite is making every effort for Israel to be replaced by a secular democratic state of Palestine and for Norway to join Palestine in being Jew free. Yes cleansing of Jews is acceptable and even encouraged..

  2. Ellen
    October 9, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Why does he think that Jagland, of all feeble numpties, will be able to accomplish anything? (Yeah, OK, so he’s secretary general. Who else thinks he got the position exactly because he’s weak and easily swayed by his “subjects”?)

  3. Harry
    October 9, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    I have no faith in Jagland whatsoever. He is compared to the Norwegian fairytale The Seventh Father of the House, a tiny man hanging in a horn on the wall trying to say something wise in his broken English. His primary concern seems to be islamapology.

  4. October 9, 2013 at 10:39 pm

    The idea of protecting all children equally from forced genital cutting should be central to all worthy religions.

    It’s simple; children have the basic human right to offer their own rational informed consent to non-therapeutic amputations after they become informed adults.

  5. : )
    October 10, 2013 at 12:12 am

    Ron Low,

    its not about genital cutting as a control of sexuality, when you put it like that you need to be explained that its not ok to have close mind. In Russia live parents that are homofile now in fear for new laws that might take away their children Her in Norway has people that has used surrogacy had real problems to get their biological children into Norway and where only one is the parents the other has been not registrated as a parents. I really fear that anti democratic people on right and left will reduse human rights with use of psycology. In my opinion we can only offer help to people that has had a trauma not 100% create a society that reduse all kind of evil actions. What do you do the day you become the bad Ron? The world you want is a danger for us all!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2bmImPNKbM

  6. October 10, 2013 at 12:29 am

    If you and your coreligionists were consequential in your thinking you would make an equal racket and demand the absolute right of protection/determination or whatever fancy word you bandy about for children who are unfortunate enough to be born into violent families, families with drug and/or alcohol issues, being left howling behind in kindergartens as mummy or daddy throws them off before rushing to work, workaholic parents who cannot relate to their children’s basic emotional needs or any other trivial aspect of everyday life. All of the above have the detrimental consequences such as diminished learning capacity, emotional instability, diminished immune capacity, etc, etc, etc. Nor have we heard a great deal of noise when pregnancies are terminated due to convenience (or maybe it is inconvenience) such as not the sex as desired in the offspring, or some undesired genetic potential (a potential which might not become an issue once child is born), or what about late stage abortions, and viable babies are left to die while the midwives try to block out the image of a live baby struggling to breathe, and then succumbs. And indeed, where are you concerned voices when female infants are murdered?
    I put it to you that your concern is driven not by superior motifs for the genuine welfare of others, rather as you sit on your loo with nothing useful to produce, this is all you are capable of – scratching your foreskin!

    Meanwhile, a handful of circumcised men have just – and dare I say it; again! – won the majority of this year’s Nobel prices for their excellent intellectual and analytical capacities, which led to scientific discoveries that will benefit Man for a long time to come.

  7. : )
    October 10, 2013 at 1:08 am

    McG,

    you are so good! Its holiday again her in Norway. On the first day I had two different families with their children on the door, could we have them? They had no time and no other than us to ask. One I just turned down as we have meeting with the school first day after this holiday to talk about these families as they always has problem in their holidays. The second one was in so deep problems that we just had to reorganise ower own holiday to help them out. If I was Ron I had probably called the child service about these families instead of coroporating with the school to find good solutions so that things works out better for all. What solution is it to ruin two families just because they are super stressed? What is the solution to band religious rights and hope religion goes back into the dark corners. If one has problems to go to a religious meeting and get emotional problems my guess is that one has problem with other things as well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0h9oQu5tU8

  8. martin
    October 10, 2013 at 3:12 am

    I read of a 40 year old Yemenite Arab who was wedded to his 8 year old wife before she died. she lost so much blood because he chose to employ his manhood on a child. I would suggest that personalities such as Ron Low address their problems to the muslim minorities in Norway.
    Are you using the same argument that all children must not be immunised against the many diseases that we still have even in Europe. By the way, TB was eradicated in the UK and guess what? Yes it’s back within a certain minority I gather Mr Low that no children must be given any medication, operations etc until such a time as they are considered adults and in a position to decide for themselves.

    Much of the old and ancient laws that we Jews have, which have been handed down to generation after generation, as the word of God, have all been shown to have mental and physical health benefits. That some might be open to debate, is not a reason to ban them.

    You allow the sami to slaughter their deer, you allow hunting of anything that swims, runs and crawls, yet you do not allow Kashrut. There is only one reason and that is, if Jews don’t like it, then it is time to leave. Believe me Mr Low, I agree with that. How any Jew wants to live in Norway today is beyond me.

  9. : )
    October 10, 2013 at 6:55 am

    Martin

    I agree, its the Muslims her in Norway Ron Low and others are after, so be open about it and face the problems that lies in a culture that has no respect or interest of democracy.

    Good reading for Ron Low:

    http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/En-ny-innsikt-reiser-seg-6710388.html
    http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/spaltister/ottosen/Knallhard-marxistisk-kritikk-av-islam-6633289.html

  10. de Bacle
    October 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    McG yiu write:
    “… a handful of circumcised men have just – and dare I say it; again! – won the majority of this year’s Nobel prices for their excellent intellectual and analytical capacities, which led to scientific discoveries..”

    6 out of the 8 science laureates this year are Jewish, so in a way your very well put words are nevertheless an understatement.

    I put it to Ron Low et al. that hey might humbly consider to convert to Judaism and circumcise their sons, statistically you’ll be doing them a huge favor !

  11. : )
    October 11, 2013 at 2:09 am

    de Bacle,

    personally I doubt lack of skin on your penis makes one inteligent. As Martin sad the Jewish living ruels has proven them self to creat humans that survive situations or great stress. Its ok to discuss these ruels but its not ok to band them. Its ok to discuss how God is in Judaism and the different ways to be Jewsih but when one start to pre-judge Jews as less empatic parents and refuse that Jew hate exist, then its time to scream: NEVER AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN!

    I support good info about benefits and problems to all the Jewish living rules, but I regard people that fight religion as chaos people that we need in a democracy, but we also have to be protected from them so that they don’t take power!

  12. martin
    October 11, 2013 at 3:55 am

    Norwegian, you warmed the cockles of my heart to read NEVER AGAIN. Some of us have made sure the slogan is fact. It really is beyond time for Jews to shout and scream as loudly as the Muslim community does about their human rights.
    Not all Jews went quietly to the chambers, some fought back against awful odds knowing their plight.
    Can Norway become and practice the rites of Nazism? Well, I suggest apart from the concentration and death camps, Norway already does. Just look at what goes on in a beautifully landscaped country inhabited by too many people who really believe that they are superior. Yes, as I wrote above, Norway is already there.

  13. : )
    October 11, 2013 at 6:36 am

    Martin,

    I’m really glad that it was the democratic people that wan the war. But what I think went wrong after the war was the need to control people that could be dangerous, and creat good humans insted of free humans. Its not odd that we have a generation that now stand up and that hunger for freedom, and lose them self into the idea that freedom is to be in control.
    What I find sadly in today’s Norway is that people figure out how they are and then seek people after that, if people are not as they want them to then they feel stress and demand action’s against the wrong one that ruin the Norwegian paradise.

    I think we have to help people to accept that they might meet people they dislike and face it with respect for the one they meet and live with stress!

  14. Eric R.
    October 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    While “Ron Low” and others at the general population may be motivated by their concern over Muslims, the fact is that the leftist elites are in fact, motivated by their Jew-hatred, and their desire to rid Europe of Jews forever.

    Everybody knows that this law will NOT be enforced against Muslims, because they will bomb, shoot and stab anyone who tries to enforce it. They will enforce it against Jews, who (unfortunately in this case) do not have the same rage to fight this.

    Again, Israel will have to take severe steps if any country choses to ban circumcision (and I suspect Norway or Sweden will be the first to do it) — break diplomatic relations, expel diplomats, journalists and nationals working for NGOs, and either ban tourists from that country or at least prevent them from entering Jerusalem to make a pilgrimage. After all, if that country is not going to allow Jews freedom to practice religion, then Israel has the right to prevent the people of that country from freely practicing religion by denying them the right to visit holy sites.

  15. martin
    October 17, 2013 at 3:12 am

    Eric.R, never mind the European idiots with their love of hate towards the Jews and Israel. The far bigger problem is how Obama continues to betray Israel and continually stab her in the back. Sadly, Netanyahu is not man enough to stand up to the deviant in the white house.

    Obama has continually stopped Israel from defending herself and he is now befriending Iran. That just about sums this muslim president up perfectly. Oh yes, I know that you don’t view Debkafile as I do. you may be surprised at what it reports. Turkey (Erdogan) has also, as expected, shopped Israeli spied in Iran. question, how did erdogan receive this information???

  16. Eric R.
    October 18, 2013 at 8:42 am

    Martin,

    Israel will strike at Iran, despite Obama. And to give you some idea how screwed up a world we live in — it will be the Saudis — yes, the Saudis — that will make it possible.

    You think Israel is scared of an Iranian bomb? They are not half as scared as the Saudis. After all, the Jews are only dhimmis and non-believers. The Shi’a of Iran are far worse in their eyes — the Shi’a are heretics.

    Hell, the Saudis (and Kuwaitis, and Omanis and the UAE) are not even pretending anymore, even in public, who is the biggest threat.

    So tell me Martin — 25 years ago, did you think:

    a) The Gulf states would have their security interests more aligned with Israel than even the USA does?

    b) That Pravda would actually be LESS of a Marxist propaganda rag than most Western media outlets?

    c) That Israel would be at the point where it utterly rejects Europe and embraces Asia?

    It reminds me of that old Russian curse — may you live in strange times.

  17. martin
    October 19, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Eric R in answer to your questions a, b and c, no, no and no again. ASnd I can go back only 5 years ago and the answers will remain the same

    What is so ridiculous is that Europe is so fond of Obama, they appear totally unaware of real hardline facts. I’ve mentioned before about the Arabs’ fear of Iran and their readiness to ensure that Israel can attack Iran. I don’t believe tat Israel needs to bomb Iran. with Israel’s lead in the field of high technology, I reckon the Iranian hardware and software will sustain so much damage that any nuclear threat will be unattainable.

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