Norwegian Childrens ombudsman says parents who circumcise their sons do so out of ignorance

somehow, this throws some rather dark clouds over the good intentions expressed by the Norwegian FM in his letter to the Simon Wiesenthal Center…

Anyway, this is how Norway gets attention these days, the Swedes are up in arms about our “unbridled racism and fascist culture (apparently skiing is the offending item), not that anyone would care about the nutty Swedes. But if this recent tiff with our brothers to the east wasn’t raising enough eyebrows around the world, we can always trust one of our homegrown twits to make international head lines…

lifted from Jpost.com

Norwegian official: Jews, Muslims circumcise out of ignorance

By JTA
11/25/2013 19:41

Comments come on heel of announcement that Norway would introduce new legislation ‘to regulate’ circumcision.

Baby undergoes circumcision

Baby undergoes circumcision Photo: REUTERS

The Norwegian government’s child welfare adviser said Jews and Muslims would stop circumcising children if they learned more about the risks and pain involved in the procedure.

“With good information about risk, pain and lack of health benefits of the intervention, I think parents from minorities would voluntarily abstain from circumcising children,” Anne Lindboe, Norway’s children’s ombudsman, told the Norwegian Aftenpost daily last week.

Lindboe, who last year advised Jews and Muslims to replace circumcision with “a symbolic ritual,” also told the paper that non-medical circumcision of pre-teen boys should be outlawed and those performing it should be punished similarly to people who use violence against children.

“We introduced a law on violence against children even though we had reason to believe that individuals would still be beaten and mistreated,” she said, dismissing concerns raised in the Norwegian media that a ban on ritual circumcision would mean that parents would perform it illegally.

“If 15 years is set as the minimum age, we expect Norwegian parents to follow and respect the law,” said Lindboe, a longtime advocate of the criminalization of ritual circumcision, which she considers a form of abuse and infringement of children’s rights to “physical integrity.”

She added: “I think it’s disrespectful towards minorities to assume that they are going to break the law.”

Lindboe was commenting on Norwegian Health Minister Bent Hoie’s announcement this month that Norway would introduce new legislation “to regulate” ritual circumcision.

The details of the planned legislation were not made known but Ervin Kohn, president of the Jewish Community of Oslo, told JTA he did not expect it to lead to a ban on ritual circumcision in Norway.

8 comments for “Norwegian Childrens ombudsman says parents who circumcise their sons do so out of ignorance

  1. November 25, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Talk about ignorance. These people in Norway that sing in one note and want to shove their ideology down the throats of others take the cake.

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    November 26, 2013 at 2:25 am

    McG,

    no matter if this is the Children ombudsmans opinion she has to stand on it.
    Yes, Oldschooltewntysix it does look like a banana republic and its so embarassing. As I analyse it the Children ombudsman try to communicate to children by media. Most children don’t read media. Mental sick people pick up the retoric and think that they as well can behave like this. Its at a very low level of knowlege so it makes it easy for them. There is so many ways to reach minority parents and their children, the Children ombudsman should use these chanels instead of creating chaos in the public that again spread out as very odd Norwegian’s point of view.

    Ervin Kohn wrote very well about how to not be a victim as a Jew. A mental man changed it into a need to be a victim from the Jews?????? That is how internet works, it demands more of the user to navigate what is info and what is just pure crap! So to pay for info on the web sound like the most natural way to go. But that was probably the plan the hole time. Nothing is free, is it McG?

  3. de Bacle
    November 26, 2013 at 6:27 am

    “With good information about risk, pain and lack of health benefits of the intervention, I think parents from minorities would voluntarily abstain from circumcising children,” Anne Lindboe, Norway’s children’s ombudsman, told the Norwegian Aftenpost daily last week.”

    Would be interesting to hear her response if asked ask whether she also believes that 6 of this years science Nobel Prize Laureates would be “persuaded” by her superior intelligence and ethics enlightment.

    (I’m almost laughing at just trying to picture the despair that would show in the face of an orthodox intellectual like Sir Rabbi Jonathan Sachs if confronting a moron like this in a discussion)

  4. November 26, 2013 at 7:10 am

    yes, in fact, not only do I think Sir Jonathan Sachs would struggle to keep a straight face in front of such utter ignorance, but if Ms. Lindboe ever were to come to terms with her lack of knowledge and understanding, I think she would want find a closet to hide in for a very very long time…

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    November 26, 2013 at 8:20 am

    McG,

    can we try to not make Lindboe as a target? Nothing good comes out that one sit and make fiction stories on how she would behave if she meet a Rabbi.
    I’m very conserned how Muslim and Jewsih boys are confronted in gymnastic and when they try to find them self secual in 14 – 18 years age. Ms. Lindboe has to remember that as she try to prevent circumcising, she is also the ombudman for circumcising boys and girls. I think she show lack of empaty for them in the way she present her facts and make them into victims. It is nice if we all can focuse around Ervin Kohns words about not being a victim and use our energy with non Jews to bulid a better democracy.

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    November 26, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Brilliant of Kohn:

    http://www.verdidebatt.no/debatt/cat12/subcat15/thread453176/#post_453176

    Notice he does not call EV an antisemitt but give him a hard but fare reply on very odd statments from EV. Way to go for all Jews! Finally a Norwegian Jewish man that speak up! Can’t wait to read what EV reply, ups forgott he will probably blame the Jews and cry for deportion on the 26/11.

    Excellent control of Kohn and very balansed written!

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    November 27, 2013 at 5:58 am

    McG,

    VD seems like they want to save this man from his own fantazy mess and has removed Ervin Kohn’s exelent comment. A smart way to cool things down on the web by VD. All can say stupied things!

    But it can be read on this page for everyone that want to follow the discussion Kohn does for the Jewsih community:
    http://www.dagsavisen.no/nyemeninger/alle_meninger/cat1003/subcat1018/thread289188/

    McG since I really dislike drama I’m glad to see media going for the easy way out. Very good of Kohn as he probably had to accept this way as well. Relax and enjoy life EV it does not get worst than what one make it to!

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    November 30, 2013 at 12:09 am

    McG,

    I do hope you read Annika H Rothstein
    https://twitter.com/truthandfiction

    I see why the Jewish community in Sweden react on her, but I think its pointless to believe a hard speak can calm her down, it will probably just make her more determend to change things for the better. I think that is the lesson the Norwegian Jewish community has learnt. Hope people care for her!

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