lifted from miff.no (google translate)
Not only are they boycotting ordinary Israelis, now they are also shamelessly lying to further underline their Israel hate. There is a very clear pattern emerging as the lefties have taken over whatever is left of the Church of Norway; one of hatred and dirty lies. In the good old fashioned Lutheran style
A new example of the YMCA-YWCA lies
” Every minute an [ olive ] tree in Palestine is destroyed ,” the YMCA-YWCA Global claimsin its last newsletter . This is a hundred times more than the Palestinians’ own prime minister.
By Conrad Myrland
The YMCA-YWCA Global’s latest newsletter (Global News 2/2013 ) features a large advertisement for planting of trees in the West Bank . Donor can buy their own olive tree for NOK 200 .” This appears to be a copy of a similar donor projects for reforestation organized by Jewish National Fund in Israel for many years .
YMCA-YWCA Global , who elsewhere in the magazine show a great interest in what they call ” justice” , begins its fundraising campaign with a lie . ” Every minute a tree in Palestine is destroyed” they claim in the opening paragraph .
If a tree is destroyed every minute , there will be 60 trees per hour, 1,440 per day, 525,600 in one year.
How does this measure up to reality ?
In October 2013 Palestinian Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah claimed that Israeli soldiers and settlers from the beginning of the year (2013) had destroyed about 4,000 trees in the West Bank . That is about 400 trees a month, 13 day , 0.55 trees per hour and 0,009 trees per minute – or 108 times less than YMCA-YWCA claim.
In October 2013 Visualizing Palestine claimed that 800,000 trees have been destroyed in the West Bank since 1967. In comparison the YMCA-YWCA Global claims that 525,600 trees will be destroyed in one year.
If Vizualizing Palestine’s contention is correct, 17,000 trees have been destroyed annually in the 47- year period . It must either mean that there is now destroyed much less trees than before , or that Vizualizing Palestine and / or Prime Minister Hamdallah wrong . Also in relation to Vizualizing Palestine the YMCA-YWCA Global exaggerates by a factor of 31
From January to October 2012 was 7,500 olive trees destroyed by settlers , according to the UN agency OCHA , the Palestinian news agency Ma’an writes . It is 58 times less than the YMCA-YWCA claim.
Why are olive trees gone?
In all countries where there is rapid population growth and community go from developing country status to modernity are agricultural and forest loss. It is therefore wrong to think that all the trees that are broken is a plan from the Israeli side to destroy Palestinian living conditions . Often trees have given way for infrastructure and development that has benefitted the Palestinians.
17,000 trees a year sounds like a lot . In comparison in 2011Norwegian authorities approved of reallocating 6067 acres of cultivated land and 3646 acres of arable land, according to the Norwegian Agricultural Authority . Many more trees than 17000 can be grown on 9713 acres of land.
The fight for the Land
it is clear that olive tree groves are a factor in the fight for the land in the West Bank . Because of the old Ottoman property laws, the cultivation of land is vital for property control in the area.
In some areas of the West Bank is the continual episodes of violent settlers vandalize or destroy Palestinian olive trees. An IDF report published by Ha’aretz, 28th October 2013, shows that over 1,300 trees were burned , cut down or damaged during the period 11 September 14 October 2013. All the episodes took place near Israeli settlements or outposts , writes journalist Amira Hass . This could mean that the settlers would prevent Palestinians cultivate land near their settlements , for fear that this would give Palestinians claims to areas in the future. Often the actions aimed at afforested , ie previously uncultivated land that Palestinians plant trees in order to assert private ownership over .
Also if Israel withdraws more from the West Bank, olive trees will give way to the new Palestinian roads, neighborhoods and business parks . It will probably still be a need for the YMCA-YWCA Global raise money for tree planting , but it is never a need to present a problem one hundred times larger than what it in reality is.
Somewhat related, NRK commentator and author, Jahn Otto Johansen, takes the YMCA/YWCA to task in an oped in Vårt Land. He says the thought that Christians once more are boycotting the Jews raises many difficult memories (lifted from Vårt Land)
Sanctions yes , no boycott
Published on March 25 – 2,227 views posts
I’m generally under doubt yes to sanctions and no to the boycott. And I react especially that churches and Christian organizations and Christian people want boycott of Israel.
In connection with Ukraine crisis has been much talk of both sanctions and boycotts, and before this required the YMCA and YWCA , with support from cultural figures who Ecumenical Culture Works Nowhere Erik Hillestad boycott of Israel. I will distinguish between sanctions and boycott , saying the question yes to the first and no to the latter.
Putin used military force on a peninsula which for centuries was Russian, and where the vast majority populations have always felt that Russians. The western countries’ response was as expected, although at one time supported Kosovo’s secession from Serbia. Kosovo was historically and culturally a Serbian heartland , but had a Muslim majority of people who felt persecuted by the Serbs. Many countries with Spain, Brazil and India recognize Kosovo still does not , but the EU and NATO has been little self-criticism about the people unlawful attack on ex- Yugoslavia and the recognition of Kosovo. Now facing these countries themselves in the door in conflict over Crimea.
Necessary reactions . Nevertheless , I believe that it was necessary to clear western reactions, not least because the Russians have built up substantial forces on the border with the Ukraine. Will they intervene also there to protect a large Russian- speaking group? Will Putin , who perhaps dreamed to Ukraine myself in an eastern counterpart to the EU and NATO let his soldiers go over the limit? We do not know . There is also speculation over whether he would intervene in the manufacture Istria which seceded from Moldova. That we do not know with any certainty . But it was necessary that the Western countries sent a clear signal that this would not be accepted.
Military countermeasures have not be appropriate , NATO does not have the necessary forces to do this and we could at worst risking nuclear war . There is of course no interested in. Then you can discuss how comprehensive and effective such sanctions are. Will they frame the western countries as strongly as Russia? My assessment is that they to a certain extent will do so if the oil and gas retract. The Russians will lose important export income , but the industry and consumers in several European countries will be hit hard . This is pure ignorance when some have suggested that the Norwegian North Sea gas and American skiffergass can replace the Russian . This would require a completely new infrastructure and take a long time . Should European factories stop and people freeze in the meantime?
Worried . It is understandable that Poland , the Baltic countries and perhaps also the Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania are concerned. But they are members of NATO and thus a protection that Ukraine does not host or receive. No talking seriously to include Ukraine in the EU and NATO, and everyone knows that the financial assistance that the Ukrainians are promised , not without strict conditions . But what NATO can and should do is to station more planes and more soldaer for example . Poland and the Baltic countries.
So far, these countermeasures. But what about the boycott as many advocated in the past to share with Sochi Olympics and now require in connection with Ukraine ? Many demanded Olympic boikot because of Russia’s discrimination against gays . But the vast majority of the Russian people with the Orthodox Church in the tip is clearly against homosexuality . There are also a number of other people and countries. Should all these be boycotted ? And what about Poland if the strong Catholic and nationalist parties come back to power in the next elections ?
Empirically does not boycott so we hope and believe . South Africa and Southern Rhodesia was possibly the exception . I was once a supporter of the boycott of these regimes . But it is not certain that it was the boycott that led to the turmoil in South Africa.
Olympic boycott. After the Soviet invasjonenen of Afghanistan went West for a boycott of the Moscow Olympics , and there were also many other boycotts against both the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries . Military countermeasures were not at all relevant. Therefore, we seized the boycott.
But this building on the completely erroneous assumption that the Afghanistan invasion was part of a larger Soviet strategy of reaching the Persian Gulf and frame oil supplies to the West. Today we know that it was not so . Afghanistan invasion was due to Russia’s historical fear of Russia’s ” soft underbelly “, ie vulnerability against Muslim and especially Islamic regimes in the south. The American motaksjonene in Afghanistan just strengthened the Islamists and especially Bin Laden’s people .
I had at that time one of my many conversations background with a Soviet deputy foreign minister , who was also a historian. Having given up trying to convince me with the official popaganda he knocked out his arms and said :
“Ah , yes, it was easier then we had an old reactionary king of Kabul. ”
If I would have boycotted the Soviet Union and the Eastern European countries then I would not have gotten such access . Otherwise reacted all Muscovites I spoke to about the Olympic boycott , being angry at the West, not the distance from the Kremlin.
Israel. What about the boycott of Israel because of its policies towards the Palestinians ? It is also I receive, for it affects critical Israelis and Palestinians over the government in Jerusalem. I have since the Six Day War in 1967 was against the Israelis to keep the areas they conquered , and I have none other than Israel’s first Prime Minister Ben Gurion behind me in this view .
I had in 1967 a long bakgrunsamtale , no formal interview with him in his apartment in Tel Aviv. Ben Gurion , who was a hawk in 1948-49 , had not been a dove, but as the great statesman he was , he gave a real political reasoning which indicated that the Israelis should provide most of what they had taken , namely demographics . Palestinians born far more children than Jews. Then we will no longer be able to maintain Israel as both a Jewish state and a democracy , said Ben Gurion to me . He had broken with Labour which has the original charge of colonization policy. Many Israeli intelligence and military people I have talked to agree with Ben Gurion .
Antisemitism behind . I react especially that churches and Christian organizations and Christian people want boycott of Israel. Even when such a boycott claims brought under anti – sonismens banner , it will often be anti-Semitism behind . The Christian churches have a special responsibility for anti-Semitism . From Augustine to Luther acted church leaders Jew haters , and priests and monks encouraged pogroms . Churches in Germany did not clear distance from Nazi persecution and extermination of Jews , although a few responded and in some cases had to pay with his life .
And another thing: Why would they like to boycott Israel , not also boycott Hamas and regimes that are not only anti-Semitic but practicing sharia and oppress women?
Unsurprisingly, talk backs mainly anti-israel, but that is what can be expected of Lutherans these days. They have a rich tradition of Jew hatred to look back on.